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future. >> john boehner has been tweeting out a picture that i think is interesting, and writing among other things, will senate democrats ever pass a budget. in the four years since senate democrats passed a budget, you could make 179 round trips to the moon. at the same time, chuck schumer says the senate is going to pass a budget so andy, are the democrats going to call the republicans' bluff? >> well, the question that i want to know and what will be playing out this week is whether john boehner's plan, this is a gamble for house speaker john boehner. there are members of the republican caucus in the house who don't want to raise the debt ceiling at all and don't even think a three-month extension of the debt ceiling as a ploy to put the political pressure on the senate democrats to pass a budget, they may not even vote for this. so he has his work cut out for him to make sure that his caucus or at least the vast majority of it is on board for this. and for the senate democrats, if this three-month extension passes, it does move the spotlight, it does put the heat on them and they
this. even john boehner said now is the time to deal with immigration. but, you know the questions you were just talking about. is will some of your colleagues on the far right, tea partyiers, perhaps, support this path to citizenship for illegal immigrants? >> well, you know, jackie kucinich had it exactly right. this has the prospect of s success. it's all about whether house republicans are willing to stand up to the tea party base. you've got a bipartisan group of senators left and right advocating a path forward. you've got the president of the united states who will unveil his views on a path forward. what this comes down to now is will these house republicans who have pandered to their intolerant tea party base, who have fed into the extremism of that tea party base, are they willing to stand up to the tea party and do what's right for america? we'll see whether they're able to amass the votes to get us forward. >> they might see this is amnesty. what would you say? >> well, you know what? i'm interested in solutions. i'm not interested in rhetoric. i'm not interested in finger
alternatives. >> house speaker john boehner recently told "the wall street journal" that the sequester, quote, is as much leverage as we're going to get. but does the gop actually stand to lose more than it gains? i'm joined by "washington post" columnist, and msnbc policy analyst, ezra klein, who has written about this. good morning, ezra. >> good morning. >> in one of your columns, you wrote that republicans are wrong to think that the sequester gives them leverage. what's your reasoning? >> it's just become a somewhat bizarre conversation. look, you have to go back. the sequester, it's a very weird, kind of boring word. it comes out of the debt ceiling deal in 2011 and it was the backup to the supercommittee. and way it was designed, it was originally supposed to be half taxes and half spending cuts. so both sides would be terrified of letting it happen, and because they were so terrified of letting it happen, they would come to a deal. the point of the sequester was to get the two sides to a deal. but republicans wouldn't allow tax increases, even in the sequester. and so they made this w
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